Comments on: Burger Joints and Byzantine Churches http://byzantineevangelization.com/2006-0529/burger-joints-and-byzantine-churches/ Just another WordPress weblog Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:24:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.1 by: hermes http://byzantineevangelization.com/2006-0529/burger-joints-and-byzantine-churches/#comment-3886 Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:57:20 +0000 http://byzantineevangelization.com/2006-0529/burger-joints-and-byzantine-churches/#comment-3886 Marvelous. Thanks, will spread this among my friends! Marvelous. Thanks, will spread this among my friends!

]]> by: helle http://byzantineevangelization.com/2006-0529/burger-joints-and-byzantine-churches/#comment-3885 Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:48:51 +0000 http://byzantineevangelization.com/2006-0529/burger-joints-and-byzantine-churches/#comment-3885 Marvelous. Thanks, will spread this among my friends! Marvelous. Thanks, will spread this among my friends!

]]> by: hasland http://byzantineevangelization.com/2006-0529/burger-joints-and-byzantine-churches/#comment-3882 Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:42:04 +0000 http://byzantineevangelization.com/2006-0529/burger-joints-and-byzantine-churches/#comment-3882 Marvelous. Thanks, will spread this among my friends! Marvelous. Thanks, will spread this among my friends!

]]> by: John Michalski,Jr. http://byzantineevangelization.com/2006-0529/burger-joints-and-byzantine-churches/#comment-151 Thu, 06 Jul 2006 06:39:49 +0000 http://byzantineevangelization.com/2006-0529/burger-joints-and-byzantine-churches/#comment-151 The nearest Byzantine Catholic Church to Anchorage, Alaska is in Seattle, Wa.--although we have a Mission, 45 miles north of our church(Blessed Theodore Romzha Byzantine Catholic Mission in Wasilla, Ak. --- old Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church). Check out our web site--up-to-date, www.ak-byz-cath.org . On our brightly colored sign on a front portion of our property at 2200 Arctic Blvd, there is a separate sign below the main sign that reads----EVERYONE IS WELCOME . If those passing on this major arterial see that sign, they would know that "anyone" can enter and be a part of the beautiful Divine Liturgy. We do receive visitors(tourists) from out of state, and periodically other Roman Catholic's, Orthodox and other religions. On our sign in roster, many will say---beautiful, spiritual , very nice, etc. Within the narthex, the Pope is visible on a door to bell room. Many Roman Catholics are surprised to learn from me(in many cases) about the 22 different churches as part of the Catholic Church. I (as the Cantor) am very proud of our church and can give a quick explanation to these people if they need it, of the differences from RC. Most of our parishioners are RC, but some have come here for many years as its their choice. If people are proud of their church and its liturgy, they will talk about it to others--we need this. Big John The nearest Byzantine Catholic Church to Anchorage, Alaska is in Seattle, Wa.–although we have a Mission, 45 miles north of our church(Blessed Theodore Romzha Byzantine Catholic Mission in Wasilla, Ak. — old Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church). Check out our web site–up-to-date, www.ak-byz-cath.org . On our brightly colored sign on a front portion of our property at 2200 Arctic Blvd, there is a separate sign below the main sign that reads—-EVERYONE IS WELCOME . If those passing on this major arterial see that sign, they would know that “anyone” can enter and be a part of the beautiful Divine Liturgy. We do receive visitors(tourists) from out of state, and periodically other Roman Catholic’s, Orthodox and other religions. On our sign in roster, many will say—beautiful, spiritual , very nice, etc. Within the narthex, the Pope is visible on a door to bell room. Many Roman Catholics are surprised to learn from me(in many cases) about the 22 different churches as part of the Catholic Church. I (as the Cantor) am very proud of our church and can give a quick explanation to these people if they need it, of the differences from RC. Most of our parishioners are RC, but some have come here for many years as its their choice. If people are proud of their church and its liturgy, they will talk about it to others–we need this. Big John

]]> by: chrysostom http://byzantineevangelization.com/2006-0529/burger-joints-and-byzantine-churches/#comment-131 Fri, 30 Jun 2006 12:47:07 +0000 http://byzantineevangelization.com/2006-0529/burger-joints-and-byzantine-churches/#comment-131 well said. well said.

]]> by: Carson http://byzantineevangelization.com/2006-0529/burger-joints-and-byzantine-churches/#comment-120 Thu, 29 Jun 2006 00:06:17 +0000 http://byzantineevangelization.com/2006-0529/burger-joints-and-byzantine-churches/#comment-120 RDC, This is a fair question. Thank you. We haven't really discussed this issue all that much, though personally, I think that the Eastern Catholic Churches ought to work together much more than they do. I suppose that most of the places you mentioned are large enough for more than one Byzantine parish, except for Toms River (that's only conjecture) it is a shame we don't pool our resources. We could be more effective I believe. CDL RDC,

This is a fair question. Thank you. We haven’t really discussed this issue all that much, though personally, I think that the Eastern Catholic Churches ought to work together much more than they do. I suppose that most of the places you mentioned are large enough for more than one Byzantine parish, except for Toms River (that’s only conjecture) it is a shame we don’t pool our resources. We could be more effective I believe.

CDL

]]> by: RDC http://byzantineevangelization.com/2006-0529/burger-joints-and-byzantine-churches/#comment-110 Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:59:23 +0000 http://byzantineevangelization.com/2006-0529/burger-joints-and-byzantine-churches/#comment-110 >Imagine that you lived in a town where there was a McDonald’s on one corner, a Burger King on another corner, a White Castle down the road, and a Culver’s next door to that. Do you think it would be a good idea, if you were an investor, to start up another hamburger stand? So what do you think about the fact that in the few places an upstart Byzantine "Ruthenian" parish has taken root in locales outside the ethnic core, within a few years the Ukrainians have come in and planted themselves a new separate parish? Toms River, NJ Dallas, TX (cf. Irving) Atlanta, GA (cf. the Roswell / Conyers churches) and now Raleigh, NC (cf. Cary) Granted, Dallas, Atlanta and perhaps Raleigh are large enough metro areas to hopefully support multiple Byzantine parishes, but AFAIK Toms River is primarily a retirement community. Still, if you look at those original parishes even though they are "alive" in some sense, none of them is by any means a large parish, and yet here again we have a multiplying of temples, rectories, halls, etc. (Of course, then again we have the sad situation in Denver where a group of non-Russians decided they needed a separate, Russian church.) What does the Annunciation, Homer Glen IL model have to say about this phenomenon? >Imagine that you lived in a town where there was a McDonald’s on one corner, a Burger King on another corner, a White Castle down the road, and a Culver’s next door to that. Do you think it would be a good idea, if you were an investor, to start up another hamburger stand?

So what do you think about the fact that in the few places an upstart Byzantine “Ruthenian” parish has taken root in locales outside the ethnic core, within a few years the Ukrainians have come in and planted themselves a new separate parish?

Toms River, NJ
Dallas, TX (cf. Irving)
Atlanta, GA (cf. the Roswell / Conyers churches)
and now Raleigh, NC (cf. Cary)

Granted, Dallas, Atlanta and perhaps Raleigh are large enough metro areas to hopefully support multiple Byzantine parishes, but AFAIK Toms River is primarily a retirement community.

Still, if you look at those original parishes even though they are “alive” in some sense, none of them is by any means a large parish, and yet here again we have a multiplying of temples, rectories, halls, etc.

(Of course, then again we have the sad situation in Denver where a group of non-Russians decided they needed a separate, Russian church.)

What does the Annunciation, Homer Glen IL model have to say about this phenomenon?

]]> by: Carson http://byzantineevangelization.com/2006-0529/burger-joints-and-byzantine-churches/#comment-76 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:27:22 +0000 http://byzantineevangelization.com/2006-0529/burger-joints-and-byzantine-churches/#comment-76 Erik G, I think it's well past time that someone respoonded to your post. I can't speak for other BCC members but I'm not interested in evangelizing RCC members unless they are totally paganized or have become atheists in practice. If they come they come. There are plenty of people who have no Church connection at all and several more who have not come to realize that they need one. With the chaos in western culture there is plenty of people that desparately need the message of the Gospel. There are millions who would respond to the Eastern approach. We need authentic temples and liturgy to start but we also need the courage to go where the people are: street corners, homes, work places, etc. CDL Erik G,

I think it’s well past time that someone respoonded to your post. I can’t speak for other BCC members but I’m not interested in evangelizing RCC members unless they are totally paganized or have become atheists in practice. If they come they come.

There are plenty of people who have no Church connection at all and several more who have not come to realize that they need one. With the chaos in western culture there is plenty of people that desparately need the message of the Gospel. There are millions who would respond to the Eastern approach.

We need authentic temples and liturgy to start but we also need the courage to go where the people are: street corners, homes, work places, etc.

CDL

]]> by: Daisy http://byzantineevangelization.com/2006-0529/burger-joints-and-byzantine-churches/#comment-57 Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:02:23 +0000 http://byzantineevangelization.com/2006-0529/burger-joints-and-byzantine-churches/#comment-57 Devin, There is a wonderful professional iconographer who painted everything in his church.I believe that includes the Pantocrator.Please check out the church website to see his work: http://www.saintbasilthegreat.org/ I've not discovered all the mysteries of linking yet! Peace, Daisy Devin,
There is a wonderful professional iconographer who painted everything in his church.I believe that includes the Pantocrator.Please check out the church website to see his work:

http://www.saintbasilthegreat.org/

I’ve not discovered all the mysteries of linking yet!

Peace,
Daisy

]]> by: Daisy http://byzantineevangelization.com/2006-0529/burger-joints-and-byzantine-churches/#comment-55 Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:37:10 +0000 http://byzantineevangelization.com/2006-0529/burger-joints-and-byzantine-churches/#comment-55 Oh my, in reading this over I see how negative my post was. My apologies. I'll make a point of being much more positive in the future. Daisy Oh my, in reading this over I see how negative my post was. My apologies. I’ll make a point of being much more positive in the future.
Daisy

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